House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.
bro dems just can’t stop bending over and gaping themselves for the conservatives, as if anyone wants them to do that lmao ANYTHING to avoid left wing populism. instead of dominating politics for decades with left wing populism let’s just gape ourselves publicly instead
The headline almost reads like an Onion article.
Most of them do nowadays.
There was an onion headline recently that read ‘the democrats will oppose the republicans the moment it is politically convenient to do so’. That was an actual onion headline…
Now I’m not saying that the Republican Party is a blatantly fascistic organization designed to re-concentrate all wealth and power into the hands of an aging white billionaire elite afraid of losing their power and want to “scorch the Earth” in revenge for the fact that they and their very specific view of “how things should be” can not last forever
And that the Democrats are not only complacent, but are actively in on the plan and intentionally aiding this grift by pretending to be an alternative choice of leadership that seeks to prevent this from happening, and doing the bare minimum to keep up that illusion to prevent real opposition from showing up.
Part of that plan is to get people to join up with the Democratic Party to resist the Republicans and steer them away from or at least discourage them from doing anything that would actually stop the Great Ominous Plan…
The reason this is so effective is because due to the way America’s Electoral System is, anything outside of the R’s or D’s is entirely unelectable no matter how many people vote.
Though this also means that if the Democrats ever lost control of their party to people who actually want to do something, it would threaten to destroy the Republican Party, and prevent anything like it from rearing its ugly head again. As it would become as demonized as the Nazi Party is in Germany.
But let’s just say that that was exactly the case…
What would the D’s and R’s be doing differently?
The party is functionally dead. If they don’t come out with absolute opposition we will be stuck with a single party for the rest of our lives.
“Forcing recorded votes is possible. Frequent quorum calls are possible. A wide variety of dilatory motions are possible. In short, harassing the majority is possible. If they think it’s a bad idea, say so. If they say it’s not possible, they’re lying.”
I like how politicians voting is considered a time out. It’s their job, jfc.
They actually can’t force votes though, so we’d be getting the same votes and we already knew whenever Republicans stepped out from the ranks such as the Hegseth confirmation where 3 of them abstained but he got appointed anyways. Recorded Votes doesn’t stop the Trump admin. The Dems are effectively powerless without 13 Ind + Gop to impeach and remove him or his cabinet members or corrupt federal judges.
I start the fire - that’s the idea
I voted 3rd party in the election in a swing state and would do it again today.
The Democrats need to internalize the political cost of supporting Israel. If they want to win, they have to drop Israel.
Are you happy with the current administration’s Israel policy though?
Are we pretending the dems werent the ones who leveled gaza and committed genocide so far? They did that shit and they promised to do more of it.
And we dont know who to credit with the ceasefire.
Am I wrong? seems like those are just facts.
No, we’re not pretending that at all. Is the current administrations policy better?
I dont think thats a forward looking question. Lets try: “Was that a good policy choice and does that represent who Dems say we are going forward?” and “should we trust centrists in leadership any longer because they sure have been out of touch screwing the pooch for a long time” and “do we want more of this right-wing-lite fascist war support BS?”
I’m tired of losing through DNC immorality and incompetence. Arent you? Its way past time to clean house.
I’d prefer you answer my question. Are you happy with the current administration’s policy?
Sticking to the canned messaging only eh. I sure do understand why you’d take that approach.
You don’t seem to understand anything. It’s a yes or no question.
Is the current administration’s Israel policy preferable to you?
You’re not answering because only a psychopath would say yes. But saying no, if you voted 3rd party, is admitting you fucked up. That’s why you avoid it. You can’t admit you’re wrong.
Primary every democrat.
This.
Primary every republican.
If they even run primaries…
Progressives need to start their own party. The establishment DNC is so entrenched with big donors and lobbyists that it is unable to serve the people. Their balancing act of appeasing both the right and the left is just serving to alienate everyone because the final policies get so diluted. They have become too stuck in the quagmire of their own doing. I don’t see the DNC being able to change any time soon and through their inaction, will only enable more devastation of the country.
The new Progressive party should align with the DNC as the opposition during this administration but simultaneously run more like minded candidates in the next elections with their own separate fundraising campaigns. That’s the only hope I have for meaningful change to happen.
There’s a free app called 5 calls. It helps you to call your representative with a script. Progressives need to get on this. I’m aware it’s a pain, but the script makes it a lot easier especially when you get an answering machine instead of a person.
It’s rather naive to think that phone calls will change anyone’s mind in office. Money speaks, not phone calls.
It’s rather naive to throw out centuries of political theory because you can’t be bothered to write / call / show up.
https://act.represent.us/sign/does-calling-congress-really-work
In fact the only thing they pay attention to more than calls is people physically showing to their offices.
It’s rather naive to throw out centuries of political theory because you can’t be bothered to write / call / show up.
Following centuries of political theory have led us to this point.
In fact the only thing they pay attention to more than calls is people physically showing to their offices.
Not really. The only thing they pay attention to is the amount on the check.
If calling really changed things, I’d be getting emails from TheDemocrats asking people to jump on a phone bank. All they are asking from me is “More Money to fight Donald Trump!”
Do you not get those texts? I would understand if you blocked them but they are definitely being sent.
The problem is you get the NDP/Liberal vs. Conservative effect when you do this. If you have 30% of the population vote for your Leftie, and 30% vote for the other Leftie, in a given congressional district, the Republican can win with 31%, despite 60% voting against the Republican. We need RCV before we can do this, and people need to understand that they MUST put the other party as choice 2 or we are back to ending up with a Republican.
