After the combative Oval Office meeting, Trump wrote on Truth Social that Zelenskyy 'can come back when he is ready for peace,' upending talks to ending the war in Ukraine.
The footage of this meeting is truly remarkable and worth watching.
I think it’s important to watch uncut unedited footage of meetings like this from time to time, to see the behaviour of leaders first hand. Otherwise it is too easy to just get swept up in the narrative of whatever social bubble you interact with.
In this meeting Trump demonstrates a total disinterest in any past events or context for current decisions; but he becomes quite animated and angry at the end of the video. Apparently he felt criticised and wanted to hit back. But he didn’t seem to be paying much attention at all to what was being said.
Zelenskyy is calm throughout, but has clear frustration as Vance and Trump speak over the top of him. Trump accuses Zelenskyy of total disrespect, and says he is ‘gambling with World War III’.
Really, it is worth watching. See how leaders of the USA behave.
It’s literally a national embarrassment caused solely by Trump because his fee-fees were hurt.
In the past week, we’ve seen Trump sitting in the oval office and making a national embarrassment of himself in front of THREE separate world leaders: France, the UK, and now Ukraine. Three. In one week.
When you view all of his behavior over the last month and his first term with the context that he’s been a Russian asset the entire time, it all makes sense. It’s not embarrassing, it’s deliberate.
And it’s a huge tell. People know that if they come in and basically tell Trump what a big manly man he is, Trump will just give them everything they want anyway. It’s not even a secret. World leaders have gone into press conferences basically saying as much.
I’d love to play poker with the man. I swear you could just keep dealing me a 2 of diamonds and a basic Forest from Magic: the Gathering, and I’d still be able to take the guy’s house in about an hour. And I’d play with my hand face up.
Trump must have been convinced that Zelensky owed him so much and was so desperate that he could say and make him do whatever he wanted.
But no you orange asswipe, Zelensky is a man (by the most complementary definition).
Trump got showed up as a bullying whiner - a shrew who tries to berate people into giving him respect that he hasn’t earned and doesn’t deserve.
Edit: Adding this to help Ukraine >>
If, like me, anyone wants to show their feelings this is a great time to donate to Zelensky’s fund to help Ukraine.
I hope it blows up and next time he’s at the white house Zelensky can use his time in front of the media to thank us for donating huge amounts… biggest donations ever seen… Lol
And Zelensky called him out on it. He literally told Vance that he’s never been to Ukraine, and Vance literally responded with the political equivalent of “I’m not a real army general, but I saw one on TV once.” . Like holy shit, you watched some news reports and you think that gives you the right to tell a leader of another country how to fight a war when you don’t even have the fucking balls to stand up to your own boss, who’s long since shown to be a fucking cuck himself?
Fuck JD Vance. Him, Trump, and Musk. I hope they all fucking choke on each other’s toes.
And for the record, I’m not saying Zelensky is perfect, but right now I’d consider him the greatest wartime leader since Churchill. 3 years in, and he’s at least holding a stalemate against an enemy that on paper should have been able to roll over him in 3 days. There any way we could send Trump over there and have Zelensky run here? I’d take him gladly over anybody in our government right now.
It was unavoidable. Really. I mean, what did you expect? The only other option available was voting for a <gasp!> black woman. No need to get crazy or anything here.
Is this really that weird? I feel like I have been to work meetings with more intensity. Also my read on it was that Zelensky was super annoying. The way he interrupted Trump and Vance all the time even though they are in charge of the situation and location. I know Trump does it too, but dude that’s not how you handle this situation. You’d think that Zelensky would know that. Any middle manager in corporate America would handle it with more grace. Sheesh
Yeah, nah my take was Zelenskyy was frustrated to be there, coddling up to putins peppers while his people are being killed. He went from having a trusted reliable partner to someone who’s parroting Kremlin talking points, and implying that it was Ukraines fault in the matter of months. He’s not a middle manager, they are both their respective countries leaders.
Well he sucks as a leader. Instead of negotiating ,he throws hissy feet. What a small thing to say thanks guys what a wonderful administration and then have a real discussion behind closed doors. Instead he just put his country in terrible position. This was so ducking predictable. He could have salvaged it so many times but he chose to be stubborn and now his people will pay for it. That’s right: it was in essence his political career vs lives of people. He chose his career. I know those are Ukrainian lives so you don’t care about them, but to me that was the height of idiocy. I hope Zelensky is remembered as a murderer. He had a choice to negotiate surrender in 2022 and he had a choice today. He just did what was convenient for him instead.
This isn’t middle management. This was trump and vance acting like children towards our allies. This was trump and vance and maga showing they’re putins cock sleeve. It’s crazy how much you trump supporters will lick the taint and swallow the balls just to try and make trump look competent.
Trump and Vance are russian assets and should be tried for treason.
He could have waited until they finish talking and say exactly what he was going to say. It came out unprofessional. Not that Trump is professional, but Trump is a Trump and in the end Zelensky was there to ask for support. Instead he tried to demand it. Dumb.
The footage of this meeting is truly remarkable and worth watching.
I think it’s important to watch uncut unedited footage of meetings like this from time to time, to see the behaviour of leaders first hand. Otherwise it is too easy to just get swept up in the narrative of whatever social bubble you interact with.
In this meeting Trump demonstrates a total disinterest in any past events or context for current decisions; but he becomes quite animated and angry at the end of the video. Apparently he felt criticised and wanted to hit back. But he didn’t seem to be paying much attention at all to what was being said.
Zelenskyy is calm throughout, but has clear frustration as Vance and Trump speak over the top of him. Trump accuses Zelenskyy of total disrespect, and says he is ‘gambling with World War III’.
Really, it is worth watching. See how leaders of the USA behave.
It’s literally a national embarrassment caused solely by Trump because his fee-fees were hurt.
In the past week, we’ve seen Trump sitting in the oval office and making a national embarrassment of himself in front of THREE separate world leaders: France, the UK, and now Ukraine. Three. In one week.
When you view all of his behavior over the last month and his first term with the context that he’s been a Russian asset the entire time, it all makes sense. It’s not embarrassing, it’s deliberate.
The “you don’t didn’t say thank you part” was so cringe.
It’s cringe every time he says it.
And it’s a huge tell. People know that if they come in and basically tell Trump what a big manly man he is, Trump will just give them everything they want anyway. It’s not even a secret. World leaders have gone into press conferences basically saying as much.
I’d love to play poker with the man. I swear you could just keep dealing me a 2 of diamonds and a basic Forest from Magic: the Gathering, and I’d still be able to take the guy’s house in about an hour. And I’d play with my hand face up.
Reminded me of an abusive parent.
‘After everything I’ve done for you!’
Trump must have been convinced that Zelensky owed him so much and was so desperate that he could say and make him do whatever he wanted.
But no you orange asswipe, Zelensky is a man (by the most complementary definition).
Trump got showed up as a bullying whiner - a shrew who tries to berate people into giving him respect that he hasn’t earned and doesn’t deserve.
Edit: Adding this to help Ukraine >>
If, like me, anyone wants to show their feelings this is a great time to donate to Zelensky’s fund to help Ukraine.
I hope it blows up and next time he’s at the white house Zelensky can use his time in front of the media to thank us for donating huge amounts… biggest donations ever seen… Lol
https://u24.gov.ua/projects
Where can you watch the unedited video?
Edit: Seems like this is it. https://youtu.be/ayBRXIN9Kro
Double edit: It’s obvious that Couch Fucker Vance was told to tank this. He went as combative as possible.
And Zelensky called him out on it. He literally told Vance that he’s never been to Ukraine, and Vance literally responded with the political equivalent of “I’m not a real army general, but I saw one on TV once.” . Like holy shit, you watched some news reports and you think that gives you the right to tell a leader of another country how to fight a war when you don’t even have the fucking balls to stand up to your own boss, who’s long since shown to be a fucking cuck himself?
Fuck JD Vance. Him, Trump, and Musk. I hope they all fucking choke on each other’s toes.
And for the record, I’m not saying Zelensky is perfect, but right now I’d consider him the greatest wartime leader since Churchill. 3 years in, and he’s at least holding a stalemate against an enemy that on paper should have been able to roll over him in 3 days. There any way we could send Trump over there and have Zelensky run here? I’d take him gladly over anybody in our government right now.
Vance needs a fucking good slap, how Zelenskyy didn’t get up and lay one on him is remarkable
Musk, Vance, and Trump were in the same room??? How did we fuck this up?
It was unavoidable. Really. I mean, what did you expect? The only other option available was voting for a <gasp!> black woman. No need to get crazy or anything here.
Is this really that weird? I feel like I have been to work meetings with more intensity. Also my read on it was that Zelensky was super annoying. The way he interrupted Trump and Vance all the time even though they are in charge of the situation and location. I know Trump does it too, but dude that’s not how you handle this situation. You’d think that Zelensky would know that. Any middle manager in corporate America would handle it with more grace. Sheesh
Yeah, nah my take was Zelenskyy was frustrated to be there, coddling up to putins peppers while his people are being killed. He went from having a trusted reliable partner to someone who’s parroting Kremlin talking points, and implying that it was Ukraines fault in the matter of months. He’s not a middle manager, they are both their respective countries leaders.
Well he sucks as a leader. Instead of negotiating ,he throws hissy feet. What a small thing to say thanks guys what a wonderful administration and then have a real discussion behind closed doors. Instead he just put his country in terrible position. This was so ducking predictable. He could have salvaged it so many times but he chose to be stubborn and now his people will pay for it. That’s right: it was in essence his political career vs lives of people. He chose his career. I know those are Ukrainian lives so you don’t care about them, but to me that was the height of idiocy. I hope Zelensky is remembered as a murderer. He had a choice to negotiate surrender in 2022 and he had a choice today. He just did what was convenient for him instead.
You are human waste. Get the fuck out of here and take your ruzzian nazi bullshit with you.
What? Is truth hard to hear, you baby killing Nazi?
This isn’t middle management. This was trump and vance acting like children towards our allies. This was trump and vance and maga showing they’re putins cock sleeve. It’s crazy how much you trump supporters will lick the taint and swallow the balls just to try and make trump look competent.
Trump and Vance are russian assets and should be tried for treason.
He interrupted when Vance was literally telling Zelensky that he didn’t kiss the ring enough during a live fucking press conference. Literally.
He interrrupted when Vance said that he watched a few news reports and therefore that gave him the right to dictate how Zelensky handles the war.
They were trying to turn Zelensky into Trump’s cuck and Zelensky wouldn’t stand for it.
He could have waited until they finish talking and say exactly what he was going to say. It came out unprofessional. Not that Trump is professional, but Trump is a Trump and in the end Zelensky was there to ask for support. Instead he tried to demand it. Dumb.
Trump wants his life to be reality TV, and he is acting like it.